Google is Biased?

Posted by: Bites85 on September 17, 2008 at 10:52 PM

Let’s welcome Bites85, yes Bites85 is going to be our fellow writer at ProPakistani.com. Bites85 is a Tech Addict from Islamabad, Pakistan. Following article has been contributed by him…! We hope to see more from him in coming days!

Google Inc.,  is the largest online company and the most successful ever. I personally like Google and its services a lot. Google is better than Yahoo, MSN and others in many ways, and they have proved themselves over the years that they are best. Main attribute of Google is its innovative yet free services like Gmail, Ad sense, Google Search,Google Earth and many more. Millions of people use Google services daily and  are contented with the outcome.

A very important factor for Google’s success is its localization, and the ease it provides for people all over the world and for all religions. Google on every occasion changes its logo with beautiful and colorful fun doing logos to match the occasion. Whether its holiday season, Christmas, Olympics,independence day or any other occasion.

Google Pakistan is the Pakistani version which is also provided in Urdu. Google says that its peoples’ company, but one can easily doubt that. Let me show you some official Google Logo’s.

Chinese new year 2008 logo

First Hot Air Balloon 2008 logo

Florence Nightingale Google UK Logo 2008

Google Christmas Logo

Google Holiday Logo

Halloween 2007 Logo

Mark Chagall Birthday 2008 logo

Mothers Day 2008 Logo

Roald Dahl Birthday 2007 Logo

St. George day 2008 Logo

St. Patrick’s day 2007 logo

Thanksgiving 2007 logo

All these logo’s are certainly beautiful - but one thing is missing. Every year Google celebrates these occasions with a dedicated logo. But Google never celebrated Happy Ramadan to the Muslim community around the world. There are more than one billion Muslim’s around the world. But Google never showed its affection towards Muslim’s. If Christmas, St. Patrick’s day, St.George day and other days are so much important than i think Google should also celebrate Happy Ramadan or Eids etc. Many Muslim’s also work for Google.

But Google not a single year celebrated it. Ramadan is the most holiest month for the Muslims and same is the case with Eid. But Google never ever made a dedicated logo. It could have shown it on first on Ramadan. Also if Happy Ramadan logo was not possible, Google could have made a Happy Eid

logo. But never ever made it. Google could also have made a Ramadan and Eid logo for only the Muslim countries like just for the Google Pakistan.

So can it be said that Google is bias? Well i certainly think it is, that otherwise Google could have made a logo to celebrate for the Muslims. And i am hoping that we may see a Happy Eid Logo this coming Eid…!

    

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Comments

  1. Rockstar Sid @ September 18th, 2008 12:11 am

    Awesome post bites85..

    Never knew Google didn’t do anything for ramadan,well this reminds me of diwali in India.. google never had (I guess) a logo made specially for diwali celebration…

    I must say sometimes Google is biased! I hope Google.com.pk finds this post mate!

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  2. Madhur Kapoor @ September 18th, 2008 12:24 am

    I also feel that sometimes Google is biased.

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  3. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 12:26 am

    I will make sure that google people find this post… and we may see this Eid a logo for Muslim World that holds 17 percent of world’s population..!

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  4. Anony @ September 18th, 2008 12:45 am

    What are you complaining about ?!?! Google is an American Organization.

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  5. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 12:50 am

    Well actually you can’t simply jump to the conclusion right away that ‘Google is Biased’ just because Google does not make any Doodles for the Muslim community events.

    Google focuses on events, culture celebrations for countries in which it has offices and official activities.

    As they don’t have an office in any of the Muslim majority countries yet (and I don’t think they will ever have one), so you can’t blame Google for this now can you?

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  6. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 12:50 am

    @ Rockstar Sid thanks man !
    @ Madhur Kapoor yes man Google is biased a lot of times.

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  7. Nayni @ September 18th, 2008 1:02 am

    Google’s this biased attitude proves that business and emotions can go hand in hand. To launch Google Pakistan was their business need and to ignore “Islamic Events ” is their deliberate emotional and ’sacred’ attempt.
    I’m sure if they ask to make any logo for WAR ON TERROR , they will not waste a single moment to tag it as ‘Save the World from Islamic Bomb”. May be like American media , google is also greatly influenced by a certain lobby that takes breath with Tel Aviv , for Tel Aviv and because of Tel Aviv.

    Whatever the case is , a popular search engine like Google should not be used to widen the gulf among the habitats of world , that could be used otherwise.

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  8. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 1:17 am

    Google is offering Google Pakistan, and that too in Urdu, similarly for many other Muslim countries… it means they are only taking out their business from Muslim community, but not giving back our share in Doodles… little unfair

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  9. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 1:25 am

    @anony its indeed American company but when they provide you with services like Google Pakistan in Urdu.Then we deserve a little courtesy.
    @Dj Flush well thats not the case,no offices in Muslim countries does not mean they cant show us little affection.They also rely alot on 16% population,which are Muslims.
    @Nayni well you are right but industry flourishes due to consumers ,if they make a logo about islamic bomb,their revenue will get a blow.So its just humanitarian ground that to wish Muslims an Happy Eid…it does not cost them.They are successful because they are user oriented company.So they should think about it.As more than 1 billion people is huge.

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  10. Nirmal @ September 18th, 2008 1:27 am

    I cannot agree with this totally, its true that there is not logo for Ramadan, but as DJ Flush said, its based on culture of countries where it more popular.

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  11. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 1:42 am

    @ Nirmal you totally rite…but Google is very popular among Muslims …every kid does not know what blogging is ! but every kid knows what Google is! so i think that a little affection will be good..!!!

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  12. Harshath @ September 18th, 2008 1:43 am

    Maybe that is because it is against Islam to make “idols”? I am told even photography is a modern relaxation of its very strict rules…

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  13. Harshath @ September 18th, 2008 1:43 am

    Maybe that is because it is against Islam to make “idols”? I am told even photography is a modern relaxation of its very strict rules…

    [submitting again... i want to be notified of followup comments :) ]

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  14. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 2:27 am

    I seriously wouldn’t have commented on this article if I didn’t read this sentence

    A very important factor for Google’s success is its localization, and the ease it provides for people all over the world and for all religions.

    The last word in the above quoted sentence gave me quite close to what we call a laugh.

    As for Bites85, Dude you sound as if you have been working in Google for 10 years and you seem to be their head of humanities and public relations.

    Making assumptions is one thing, making dead sure statements is another.

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  15. Anony @ September 18th, 2008 2:28 am

    Dude..no one has asked you to use it. Instead of arguing and worrying about it… You all should simply stop using it. :)

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  16. vimoh @ September 18th, 2008 2:32 am

    I think I have read about this in “The Google Story” book. They don’t have logo celebration for religious occasions. All their celebrations are for secular festivals. They used to have a Diwali logo as well but it was removed when someone pointed out it was a Hindu festival. So there… :)

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  17. Imran Hussain @ September 18th, 2008 2:35 am

    Just because Google is offering localized versions for all countries and regions doesn’t mean they are taking out their business from these regions. I’m sure if PTA blocks Adsense ads in Pakistan, Google wouldn’t even notice a difference in their revenues.

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  18. Rockstar Sid @ September 18th, 2008 2:36 am

    Rofl.. this post making some buzz!

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  19. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 2:40 am

    lol Imran

    You seriously got us all there. Good point.

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  20. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 2:51 am

    Imran, i am not sure if Google won’t mind at all for getting them blocked in Pakistan. We have an example, such as Lever Brothers Pakistan Limited (LBPL), they actually put their whole energy on even a little corner shop…

    because these little units are making corporate entities earn big.

    Though developing countries share little market for tech giants, but it wont be a good idea for ignoring them at all

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  21. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 2:54 am

    I am not sure, but I doubt Christmas is a religious event… what do you say?

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  22. BlogSavvy @ September 18th, 2008 2:58 am

    While i think the issue could be raised, the best way to get someone to your site is not to spam their comments section. Good luck on your quest, but to my knowledge users submit the icons, google doesn’t make them. Just what i know.

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  23. Imran Hussain @ September 18th, 2008 3:06 am

    Internet Businesses and Level Brothers are very different entities altogether. If they were ignoring Pakistan, they wouldn’t have made a localized page for us. And speaking of ignorance, MSN, Yahoo and almost all other portals do NOT have even a localized page for Pakistan. I think we should be grateful for even having a localized page for Pakistan and not label them biased instead.

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  24. Sohaib Athar @ September 18th, 2008 3:07 am

    Why don’t you take this up with Badar, the offical Google country representative for Pakistan (easy to find his contact info, just Google it). Get an official reply from them and it would make for an interesting follow-up post.

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  25. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 3:17 am

    Sohaib, i have emailed him… let see if he is kind enough to drop any comment on this

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  26. Nayni @ September 18th, 2008 3:23 am

    It was a ‘fortunate’ incident that Bites85 wrote the line that made YOU to stay here for a while and to leave an ‘experienced’ comment on this post.

    I don’t know about Bites85 but the way you are advocating google , it sounds as you ‘ve been working in google for last ten years :-) May be it is an ‘assumption’ from my part but in many cases assumptions lead us to solid statements :-)
    Bites85 has just pointed out one thing by using his , I must say , keen observation . When google celebrates “Christmis” , it means that they give importance to ‘religion’. Ethically they should give due place to the ‘religions’ of all of their users . I think there is no harm if someone try teach them ‘ marketing ethics’ :-)
    If they don’t rate any voice from a muslim country where they ‘ve no local office then atleast they should learn a lesson from media that value their users despite the fact where they are and how many they are. If HBO, BBC , CNN and Star One can wish Happy Ramadan , why can’t google???

    I don’t know why you don’t bother such negligence. If we could not realize this ‘disrespectful’ treatment , atleast we should support the elements that made us to ‘think’ for a while . :-)

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  27. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 3:32 am

    well thats the point hassan.Thats why i mentioned that Google is smart with its moves.He made Google pakistan in urdu..it is Google’s golden chance to cash on Muslim community by making a dedicated logo for Eid..lets wait and see !!!

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  28. Imran Hussain @ September 18th, 2008 3:32 am

    Because neither does Yahoo, Microsoft or any other major internet company wishes Muslims Happy Ramadan, so you can’t just pick out one of them, just because they’re the best and put the blame on them. That is just as lame as it gets. TV channels are different then Internet entities. Why don’t people here get this point?
    If it’s a disrespectful attitude to you people, then don’t just shout against one company, talk against all of them.
    You guys are being biased against Google!

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  29. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 3:33 am

    well nayni has made the point clear which i thought would use thats all the media groups like HBO,STAR,CNN etc use..Thnx nayni for some clarification here !

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  30. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 3:34 am

    well yeah rock star !!!!

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  31. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 3:37 am

    I am advocating out of experience. Probably because I have been watching Google’s move very closely for past 4-5 years.

    Considering the political situation of the world and our repo all around the globe,

    You should be thankful Google is not celebrating a “World Muslim Suicide Bomber Day” let alone a Ramadan merry making.

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  32. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 3:41 am

    Btw Ramadan has 30 days :) The author of this post forgot to mention which day he wants Google to display the Ramadan Doodle

    We have a lot of choices you see

    1. Peshawar Ramadan Day

    2. Saudi Ramadan Day

    3. Rest of the world Ramadan Day

    then there is the 30 whole days of Ramadan itself and a Eid day too

    Wow! Google is at so much liberty here ain’t it?

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  33. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 3:43 am

    Wow! and now you people are comparing Google to TV Channels.

    Haha! this article is fun seriously lol

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  34. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 3:53 am

    believe me or not u r a funny guy..lol..man repo ! so talk about repo ! tell me have u contributed anything for the repo..man we have a good repo..i have been to USA,UK,CHINA,CANADA in my last 3 years..i know how we get good response from foreigners..sadly u never been abroad..so u can not talk about what u see on media.. i have experienced it personally.. and for the choices here u go

    “It could have shown it on first on Ramadan. Also if Happy Ramadan logo was not possible, Google could have made a Happy Eid logo. But never ever made it. Google could also have made a Ramadan and Eid logo for only the Muslim countries like just for the Google Pakistan.”

    this quote is from last part of my article..try to get the point..its clear DUDE !!! :)

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  35. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 3:55 am

    I guess this discussion was for doodles only.. to merely display a wishful message for Muslims as well… like they do for others communities.

    DjFlush, i hope you wont be having any issue if they show up such a doodle on Eid…

    And if you say they won’t then i will be forced to consider that you are one of those who don’t want Google doing so!

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  36. Teeth Maestro @ September 18th, 2008 3:55 am

    A very interesting discussion, I too wish that we might have a Google Doodle for Pakistan one day / or for that fact an EID or Muslim Doodle, but to blame Google as being biased just because they have not done it — I believe is pushing it.

    Send in a request, approach Google Pakistan rep [Badar Khushnood] locate the Google Doodle team and send them this as a suggestion - be proactive - im sure they wont mind sharing the Google Love.

    But I agree its kind of depressing to have every other Doodle except a Muslim doodle LOL [funny ain't it, just using that word [doodle] I almost wish not to have one for Muslims LOL]

    Over ‘n out

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  37. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 3:56 am

    Man, stop complicating the things… they are against us!

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  38. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 3:57 am

    Google’s golden chance to cash on Muslim community by making a dedicated logo for Eid

    Is it me? or was this article really written for shughal lol

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  39. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 3:58 am

    100% Agreed.

    And I would love to see the smart ass who would oppose Sir Awab :) now please

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  40. Aamir Attaa @ September 18th, 2008 4:00 am

    Mr. Awab, i have email Mr. Badar and Doodle Team… Let’s expect best from them

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  41. Dj Ommz @ September 18th, 2008 4:02 am

    Well as far as i see now the trendz have been changed now giant organizations aint emphasizing on the profit based management system but now we are acting like a global villages and everything is just integrated people just expand their business by promoting each others culture and releigion. As a fact muslims contribute more than 17% of world population the biggest releigion being alive right now and if this thing comes under notice of all the muslims then it will make a difference to the Google people.

    The point to think is being such a Bizz gaint Google cant ignore this fact Google is acting biased. wht if PTA blked something does Pakistan really represent 17% popukation of the world or wht . Whatb about other muslim majority countries?

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  42. Osama @ September 18th, 2008 4:08 am

    I think we Muslims represent a huge percentage of the people living in this world… and we deserve to be treated equally good like the others… If its a policy that no religious logo should be put up… then no diwali or christamas logo should be put up there… And if they think that we Muslims dont have idols and pictures in our religion… well that is true… but we do advertise Eid and Ramadan … and so can Google…

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  43. DjFlush @ September 18th, 2008 4:10 am

    I hate complicating the things here on this article, but stop speaking bull shit please.

    How the hell do you say “You have never been abroad” without any shit load of proof?

    Aamir! next time please get people who at least know how to communicate with others respectfully.

    Zeeshan seriously…A discussion remains good as long as you remain in your limits and don’t cross personal lines.

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  44. Dj Ommz @ September 18th, 2008 4:10 am

    yeah i agree with Osama

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  45. Imran Hussain @ September 18th, 2008 4:17 am

    After reading that comment against Saad, I feel sad to say….

    KIDS STOP FIGHTING OR I WILL HAVE TO MODERATE COMMENTS LIKE I DID TO THIS ONE - DISCUSSION SHOULD BE KEPT SAFE,CLEAN AND PRODUCTIVE
    -ADMIN

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  46. USMAN @ September 18th, 2008 4:36 am

    well im lucky that i stumbled upon the site . . . after checking out all the comments . . . here is the conclusion.
    ” there is no doubt that muslims r a huge consumers of google and its due to google’s gurus that we get the services which r uncomparable with others but even the guru is not perfect, so they forgot to entertain muslims community, now is the time they make the right choice and make a logo for EID definitly they will get confirmed user hike and thats good for them”.
    P.S: so guys we want a logo. . . go google!

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  47. bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 5:22 am

    cool dude…i didnt mean that…i told u about my experience…not offending you…just wanted to make a point about the reputation of paskiatan…dont take it wrong… Seriously thats what not i meant…I told u that the repo is good in foreign..not crossing my limits…so brother be cool…!!! i wrote that as a frnds bcoz i thought i know u…!!! so dont get angry…Peace brother !!!

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  48. bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 5:26 am

    dude im cool just was making a point about Pakistan’s integrity…Just get the point…We cool brothers…so no offence… discussion makes us realize some key points..just was telling my xperience..so Be cool brothers !!! why getting angry .. haa !!!! :)

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  49. bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 5:28 am

    lucky we got Mr.Awab to comment…!!!

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  50. bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 1:28 pm

    @ Blogsavvy thnx for ur comment..was not spamming..just wanted you to leave ur precious comment..but google do makes its official logo’s …anyways thnx

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  51. bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 2:05 pm

    all the official google logo’s are made by Dennis Hwang..go to this link and you will get to know him more… http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Dennis_Hwang

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  52. bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 4:32 pm

    @ Anony dude i think you not following all the comments….Is its american company…then why is it provifing googlei in urdu ? its not that simple.

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  53. Sshm @ September 18th, 2008 10:25 pm

    well first of all hats off to Bites85…a very good article indeed…and its true that google is biased..and will love to see a Happy Eid logo..We also want some care…Google is the best so i think should consider the idea…Gr8 bites85…

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  54. shahan @ September 18th, 2008 10:28 pm

    ” I would agree with Bites85 that google is biased.It celebrates every single occasion.It would also be good if Google does some courtesy for us.I would love to see a happy eid google doodle,im hopeful that it will happen this Eid.Because google listens to its users.OH happy eid people in advance “

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  55. Bites85 @ September 18th, 2008 11:20 pm

    @Osama @Dj Ommz @Usman @Sshm @Shahan

    Thanks for your comments…! will see a Google happy eid logo on this eid…fingers crossed !

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  56. Newb3e @ September 19th, 2008 1:27 am

    I dont get it why do Muslims care if some one is not celebrating eid.What will a google happy eid logo do for us?
    Nothing its just bullshit rather then hoping for something positive from enemies of Islam respond them with a bigger product something bigger then Google or as a eid gift Nuke Occupied Plastine and kill all the jews.
    lol

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  57. Dj Ommz @ September 19th, 2008 8:03 pm

    I guess ya aint getting the topic here and its all the positive discussion going on here if this discussion can make them realize that muslim community around the world is getting hurt from google being biased and if they make eid logo this is our victory on the educated ground basis not like the poeple who think war is the end of everything. Atleast someone even thought they are biased instead of telling something which is not even taught in our religion

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  58. Bites85 @ September 21st, 2008 2:12 am

    @Dj Ommz thanks for the explanation dude…U made good point..now newb3e will understand it…
    @Hammad Malik thanks alot man for appreciating…

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  59. Nasir Mahmood @ September 21st, 2008 4:05 am

    Google do a great job in my opinion. They have a portal dedicated to Pakistan, urdu translation, a google rep in pakistan etc. I’m sure it’s an oversight but really great article Bites and well pointed out. I’ve always enjoyed the google doodles for the various events but it never crossed my mind to have one for Eid/Ramadan. Lets hope they do come up with one thats acceptable to ALL our factions!!! If they are a muslim hatin bunch then this would be a great opportunity for them to cause muslim faction tensions in the techie world for muslims too wouldn’t it!!

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  60. Bites85 @ September 21st, 2008 8:01 pm

    @Nasir Mahmood well thnx for appreciating :)..hope they make one and no one should heva any problem with that…it will be good InshAllah…

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  61. Khayyam Shahzad @ September 22nd, 2008 2:40 pm

    Yes google is biased regarding this issue…Google is the best company…I hope they understand the demand and make one happy eid google doodle for this eid…Google we counting on you

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  62. Bites85 @ September 22nd, 2008 9:42 pm

    @Khayyam Shahzad thanks alot man ! we all counting on Google !

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  63. design @ September 23rd, 2008 12:37 am

    Amen to that! Can I say “amen to that” in this context? Regardless, I have long felt that irrespective of its origins, there is a level of ignorance about the larger world that is almost inherent to the perspective of citizens of the US and the corporate entities that we create.

    These blinders to the world around us reveal themselves in ways large and small - like someone saying “Amen” to a post as they know not what else to say or Google being blind to the point of view of many of their customers and potential customers.

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  64. malikniyar @ September 23rd, 2008 10:18 am

    Google is the best company but biased regarding this issue……I hope they understand the demand and make one happy eid google doodle for this eid…
    Google we counting on you

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  65. Bites85 @ September 23rd, 2008 2:05 pm

    @Design thanks for you comment…Google should realize its customers.
    @Malik Niyar thanks alot.

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  66. NasirJumani @ September 23rd, 2008 4:42 pm

    Google is evil..although their motto is “dont do evil” :D

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  67. Bites85 @ September 24th, 2008 1:42 am

    @NasirJumani very rite ;)

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  68. Abdullah @ September 24th, 2008 9:31 am

    I think Bites85 has certainly made a good observation. Totally agree with you man. Its not about a silly Doodle, its about being biased. ppl at Google should realize it.

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  69. Bites85 @ September 24th, 2008 1:52 pm

    @ Abdullah Thanks man for supporting.

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  70. Haris @ September 24th, 2008 4:17 pm

    I agree with DjFlush that Google doesn’t have any office or organization here in Pakistan. So it’s no wonder they don’t put up doodles of our occasions.

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  71. Bites85 @ September 24th, 2008 7:48 pm

    @Haris very rite…but i think then they dont even have to give google in urdu version! likewise we deserve a doodle.

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  72. c0d3r @ September 24th, 2008 11:09 pm

    Firstly, a very good point highlighted by Bites85 :) Thumbs Up :D Deserves a pingback!

    Secondly, i suggest that we keep in mind a broader topic, ie: Doodles for Eid, for all muslims, not just a specifir country as pakistan. We can all mail google, cast a vote, blog about it etc to raise the topic. Digg, stumble, etc… when will they come in handy !

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  73. Bites85 @ September 25th, 2008 1:32 am

    @c0d3r thanks for the comment…well ofcourse actually the idea is for whole of the Muslim Community..i have signified that..It will be much better on Google.com … ;) thanks man !

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  74. c0d3r @ September 25th, 2008 6:51 am

    @Bites85, Well, actually the discussion went a bit off topic, when we diverted to country specific doodles… i say, as you already posted, we go for google.com … for all muslims.

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  75. Bites85 @ September 25th, 2008 2:11 pm

    @c0d3r, ya man absolutely.

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  76. Ahmed Iqbal @ September 25th, 2008 6:24 pm

    Hello,

    Yes, It’s very serious issue. Please share “contact forum” for complain to Google.

    Google Has office in these countries Egypt (Heliopolis, Cairo), Turkey (Istanbul), Dubai. If anyone guy lived in these area. Please submit “Hard Copy” complain to Sub-Office.

    Thanks

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  77. Bites85 @ September 25th, 2008 7:43 pm

    @Ahmed Iqbal thanks !

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  78. Muhammad Siyab @ September 25th, 2008 10:05 pm

    I agree to DjFlush’s comment above that saying Google is biased could be a little extreme. After all, they’ve got Google Pakistan and Google Search in Urdu.

    But it is completely true that there should be a doodle for Eid and similar occasions. In fact, I’m a little disappointed that the Google rep for Pakistan didn’t already approach Google. But the key here is to be proactive and helpful - ask them kindly, and I’m sure they’ll ‘Do no Evil’ ;)

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  79. Bites85 @ September 25th, 2008 10:18 pm

    @ Muhammad Siyab thanks.we have already approached to Google.Lets see! what they do.

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  80. Aamir Attaa @ September 25th, 2008 10:19 pm

    @Bites85, You are rocking man…!

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  81. Bites85 @ September 25th, 2008 10:28 pm

    @Aamir Attaa, Only because of you i’m rocking,so thanks brother!

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  82. Bites85 @ September 25th, 2008 10:44 pm

    Soon,i will be announcing a good news.

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  83. PakSpeaker @ September 26th, 2008 12:55 am

    @Bites85, @Bites85, i am with you too dear .. nice article on my site too. Together we make them realize how good we are .. :D

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  84. Nabeel @ September 26th, 2008 1:09 am

    I feel ashamed. Demanding the google doodle for Ramadan and Eid seems like begging for something. Please, please, please make a doodle for us, we feel inferior without it, please don’t insult us, please don’t leave us out. Why don’t we make ourselves enough able, strong, advance, creative that others would come to us and ask for our demands.

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  85. Bites85 @ September 26th, 2008 1:55 pm

    @PakSpeaker Thanks.
    @Nabeel Appreciate your comment.But not getting the whole point.We not inferior to anyone,just demanding what we deserve.

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  86. momers @ September 26th, 2008 3:39 pm

    yes google is biased…and specially Google India!

    Why? See this… I still have to get a reply form these guy to my emails and postings on their group.

    http://groups.google.com/group/telecom-grid-pakistan/browse_thread/thread/f66561cd22082600#

    and this

    Google Mapmaker blocking AJK and NA’s editing
    http://groups.google.com/group/google-mapmaker/browse_thread/thread/559a6a5efb1753b1
    ———————
    Dear Google,

    Why am I unable to edit parts of Azad Jammu and Kashmir aka AJK and
    Northern Areas aka NA’s in the Pakistan administered region of Kashmir
    (the eastern side of the Line of Control (LoC))??

    There is a white translucent polygon covering that entire Azad Kashmir
    and NA’s region when you zoom in enough. At the highest zoom levels i
    can select the editing tools but clicking on the region does not
    initiate any edits?!

    http://www.google.com/mapmaker?gw=10&ll=33.140426,73.622818&spn=0.346...

    Even the city place marks are not available in the Azad Kashmir region
    on the Pakistan side, cities like Mirpur and Muzaffarabad. But on the
    flip side the Indian Administered Kashmir aka Jammu Kashmir is quite
    extensively mapped.

    It appears to me that regional politics has taken a front seat here.
    If this is so, then this is most unfortunate and least expected of
    Google.

    AJK or Azad Kashmir is an officially recognized region with the Line
    of Control demarcating the border between the Pakistani and Indian
    administered regions of Kashmir. Then why this selective treatment is
    being administered to the Pakistani administered side is a serious
    question and would require an official explanation from Google and the
    Mapmaker team.

    Thank you!

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  87. Ahmed Iqbal @ September 27th, 2008 8:07 pm

    Hello Friends,

    Here, Google Doodle Related “URL”. Please All Guy’s Send Request And Contact With Call. I hope, Google understand our request.
    Please take practical action.

    URL: http://www.google.com/doodle4google/press.html

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  88. Ahmed Iqbal @ September 27th, 2008 8:37 pm

    Hello,

    I have Created This Issue On Google Doodle group. Please, Done Maximum request’s.

    Google Doodle group:-

    http://groups.google.com/group/doodle4google/browse_thread/thread/2a39d06986040a05#

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  89. Aamir Attaa @ September 28th, 2008 1:04 am

    @Ahmed Iqbal, i appreciate your efforts for the cause

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  90. Bites85 @ September 28th, 2008 9:50 am

    @Ahmed Iqbal .Hey i’m the real poster,and i did it on Propakistani ‘Google is biased’, but you wrote on your discussion group real poster Bites85 // “Xubair”..So, i would like you to rephrase it.Thanks

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  91. Zubair Naeem Paracha @ September 29th, 2008 7:42 pm

    bites85, now i am very much sure that you are doing it to catch some attention nothing else. the thread ahmed iqbal has made there is having my post about doodle thing, not yours =S

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  92. Aamir Attaa @ September 29th, 2008 7:46 pm

    @Zubair Naeem Paracha, I wish we could go beyond our personal interests over few issues at least…

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  93. Zubair Naeem Paracha @ September 29th, 2008 7:50 pm

    @Aamir Attaa, that should have been the reply of comment made by bites85 =P

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  94. aLee @ September 29th, 2008 7:51 pm

    @Bites85, LOL man!!!! you love publicity.. don’t u? :P Ahmed actually was discussing stuff written on xubair.com! He should have remove your name rather than xubair’s but he was not whining like you started.

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  95. Aamir Attaa @ September 29th, 2008 7:53 pm

    @Zubair Naeem Paracha, Okay let’s take it this way : - ) I wish we could go beyond our personal interests over few issues at least…

    This message is supposed to serve everyone who bears such intentions ..!

    Zubair, you got a good blog ;)

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  96. aLee @ September 29th, 2008 7:53 pm

    @Aamir Attaa, If xubair would have complained about that, then it would have been justifiable at least, but it was Bites85 who got personal btw.

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  97. Aamir Attaa @ September 29th, 2008 7:54 pm

    aLee Bahi, come on… we should work collectively for this. Working individually will bring us no results.

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  98. Aamir Attaa @ September 29th, 2008 7:55 pm

    @aLee, and my this advise is for bites85 too : - )

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  99. Zubair Naeem Paracha @ September 29th, 2008 7:55 pm

    @Aamir Attaa, now that looks much better lol =P

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  100. Aamir Attaa @ September 29th, 2008 7:56 pm

    @aLee, No one is getting personal… and even if someone does, let’s ignore him/her

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  101. Muhammad Siyab @ September 29th, 2008 8:08 pm

    this is what makes me sick. Someone has this grudge against another someone, and the WHOLE, following conversation takes that route, instead of the original thing [doodles]

    Come on people! This is definitely not the place to get personal :S

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  102. aLee @ September 29th, 2008 8:10 pm

    @Aamir Attaa, very right! let’s ignore people who acquire capabilities to be fame-hungry and jealous at the same time ;)

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  103. Nasir Mahmood @ September 29th, 2008 10:18 pm

    Heres a request from left field.

    Instead of Google, why don’t we ALL who have our own sites/blogs have an Eid DOODLE? quit complaining about just google.

    Can some artistic genius here make me a nice doodle/logo for Eid? You can enter your name on the doodle and I’ll happily credit you and offer you links and advertising space or whatever for the duration of Eid. i just think it would be nice.
    I designed all the graphics (with great difficulty) and I can do the techie stuff but I’m definitely no artist!!

    The site is Pristine Pakistan . com . If you do good, then I’m sure we can get this trend going and get a LOT of artistic requests.

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  104. Nasir Mahmood @ September 29th, 2008 10:45 pm

    why did that comment get removed? I only announced a competition for Eid where you can win a Sony Ericsson W850i for the best designed Eid logo for my site.

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  105. Bites85 @ September 29th, 2008 11:09 pm

    @aLee, dude i was just saying that to him,I sorted out with him.Its not what you think.

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  106. Bites85 @ September 29th, 2008 11:13 pm

    @aLee, hey guys come on im not getting personal.We all are brothers and i dont like publicity for sure.What i just said that ahmed wrote real poster xubair. but i talked to him and everything is fine.Bro alee dude cool yar i just said that if u could have linked back to google is biased article.it would have been good.Lets forget and work together.every thing is cool xubair and alee.Dont take me wrong.Im not fighting…its good u made a logo,i liked it and also said u that its cool…Guys come on !!!

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  107. Bites85 @ September 29th, 2008 11:13 pm

    @Muhammad Siyab, everything is cool !

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  108. Bites85 @ September 29th, 2008 11:15 pm

    @Bites85, lets forget everything,i apologise if u are hirt with any thing i said..lets work together and do some thing productive..and i also maded a logo coz i had idea about that..not cheated u alee ..!!! Guys lets kick this doodle thing a forward step

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  109. Bites85 @ September 29th, 2008 11:26 pm

    Hey guys no one is getting personal or jealous.I just wanted a back link to this article,nothing else.And still if any one plans to write on it,please give a back link.We all are brothers.I respect all.Lets just be united.

    P.S. I love you xubair and alee :)

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  110. aLee @ September 30th, 2008 2:27 am

    @Aamir Attaa, You’re probably right jiger, but the thing is what are we working at? You guys are calling Google Biased, and I’m not supporting it (you must have had an idea if you read my blog).. I don’t prefer to initiate a discussion if I don’t agree with a thing, this takes it off topic!

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  111. Aamir Attaa @ September 30th, 2008 2:36 am

    @aLee, i read your post… but was in hurry so cudn’t drop the comment. I will do that in a while…

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  112. aLee @ September 30th, 2008 2:37 am

    @Bites85, I gave you a link back chanda the very first day :)

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  113. aLee @ September 30th, 2008 2:38 am

    @Bites85, I’m not at all hurt, but that’s okay :)

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  114. aLee @ September 30th, 2008 2:44 am

    @Bites85, Aahh.. that’s aLee.. not alee my friend :) and yeah, glad to see that smile on your face ;)

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  115. Nasir Mahmood @ September 30th, 2008 5:23 am

    @Nasir Mahmood, DID YO HEAR ME

    WIN A FREE SONY ERICCSSON W850i WALKMAN Phone !!!

    Enter the competition NOW coz theres no point having an Eid Doodle AFTER EID. Some people in the UK are celebrating Eid TUESDAY !!!

    I’ll put up the DOODLE for 30 days!!!

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  116. Aamir Attaa @ September 30th, 2008 5:25 am

    @Nasir Mahmood, I wish i could design anything… But i can’t : - ( i am not designer at all..!

    Though, there are plenty of them amongst us. W850i is pretty handsome offer.

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  117. Nasir Mahmood @ September 30th, 2008 6:05 am

    @Aamir Attaa, Aamir BHAI, thanks for even thinking about it. I just think we should all try and make our ownsites, EID google doodled before throwing stones at Google.

    The rest of the world is probably thinking that we just want to make everyone else follow our demands but we don’t bother doing it ourselves first…thats SAD..very sad.

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  118. Bites85 @ September 30th, 2008 12:23 pm

    @aLee, chanda o my god…sweet i like it :)….yay im chanda…bro ur blog doesnot open..i tried lots of tim..is there any problem at ur side..or at mine ?

    [